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98 Guy (10-03-18, 03:04 AM)
James Davis wrote:

> Wow, you really are angry about ME! ;-)


I guess I should lighten up a little. If a Win-ME CD is all you have, I
guess it's what you'll end up using. I have so many MSFT CD's and
software packages and activation keys available to me, not everyone does...

> What do you know about networking W98se running on MVPC-2007
> on Windows 7 to the W7 Host? I have not been able to get
> W98se and W7 to see each other at all using the MS Loopback
> Adapter on W7. Tried all the networking W98 to W7 advise
> I could find online. None of it works for me.


One of our developers has exactly that - MVPC-2007 running on Win-7 and
a win-98 virtual image. I don't use the virtual stuff. I asked him to
check on the drive access between win-98 and host, and there are
settings you will need to mess with on the host MVPC interface. I don't
know if he was able to do it - I'll ask tommorrow. I can tell you that
on the virtual win-98 he can see shared folders on a win-2k system on
the network.

I can also tell you that on two separate PC's, one running 7 and the
other win-98se, that I can access a shared folder on the 98 machine from
win-7 with no problems. I've mapped the shared drive, probably had to
specify it directly because I probably couldn't discover it on the win-7
machine just browsing the network.
James Davis (10-03-18, 04:11 AM)
OK, 98 Guy, I'll check this thread again tomorrow.
98 Guy (10-04-18, 03:39 AM)
James Davis wrote:

> OK, 98 Guy, I'll check this thread again tomorrow.


Nothing much new to report, other than we've confirmed that a shared
folder (full read/write access, no password) on the win-98 virtual
machine can be seen and accessed by the host win-7 system.

Just to confirm - we have “Windows Virtual PC” (aka XP Mode, successor
to Microsoft Virtual PC 2007, Microsoft Virtual PC 2004, and Connectix
Virtual PC)

The Vpc.exe version is 6.1.7601.17514 dated: Nov 20, 2010.
James Davis (10-04-18, 07:36 PM)
On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 6:38:40 PM UTC-7, 98 Guy wrote:
> James Davis wrote:
> Nothing much new to report, other than we've confirmed that a shared
> folder (full read/write access, no password) on the win-98 virtual
> machine can be seen and accessed by the host win-7 system.
> Just to confirm - we have “Windows Virtual PC” (aka XP Mode, successor
> to Microsoft Virtual PC 2007, Microsoft Virtual PC 2004, and Connectix
> Virtual PC)
> The Vpc.exe version is 6.1.7601.17514 dated: Nov 20, 2010.


That seems to be the only way to share anything between Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (Not Windows 7 Virtual PC nor XP-Mode) running Windows 98se virtual machines and Windows 7/64-bit Ultimate. I guess I will just have to live with that fact; but it would be nice if everything operated in the normal networking sense, where all machines in the 'Entire (virtual) Network' were visible and could interact with each other. I have no problem networking virtual W98SE machines locally within MVPC-2007, and no problem with Virtual Machine Additions 2004 or 2007 Share Folders; I just have a problem with networking Windows 98se to/from Windows 7 on the "Entire Network."
98 Guy (10-05-18, 04:21 AM)
James Davis wrote:

> That seems to be the only way to share anything between Microsoft
> Virtual PC 2007 (Not Windows 7 Virtual PC nor XP-Mode) running
> Windows 98se virtual machines and Windows 7/64-bit Ultimate.


Not that this is an issue in this case - but can you install / use
Windows VPC (XP Mode) or is there a reason you're staying with MVPC 2007?

> I guess I will just have to live with that fact; but it would be
> nice if everything operated in the normal networking sense, where
> all machines in the 'Entire (virtual) Network' were visible and
> could interact with each other.


I can tell you that on separate machines - one running 98se (real, not
virtual) and the other running win-7, that the win-7 machine can see and
access shared folders on the win-98 system (but perhaps only when no
password is set?). I don't know but I suspect that it doesn't work the
other way around.

> I have no problem networking virtual W98SE machines locally
> within MVPC-2007,


Well, I thought that *WAS* your original problem - that you *COULDN'T*
access shared folders between Win98 running in a VM and the host win-7
system.

This is what you said:

========
> What do you know about networking W98se running on MVPC-2007
> on Windows 7 to the W7 Host? ========


How am I supposed to interpret that?

> I just have a problem with networking Windows 98se to/from Windows 7
> on the "Entire Network."


And like I said, that works just fine for me. Select a folder on your
win-98 machine to share. Naturally, make sure you have File and Printer
sharing turned on. Select full-access (or just read access) and no
password on the share. Then go to your win-7 system and select Map
Network Drive, and you should be able to see the win-98 system when you
browse the network. The name you should see will be what is entered in
the Identification tab on win-98 Network Neighborhood properties window.
The Workgroup setting you see there might have to match a similar
setting on the win-7 box (not sure about that).
James Davis (10-05-18, 10:25 AM)
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 7:20:23 PM UTC-7, 98 Guy wrote:
> Not that this is an issue in this case - but can you install / use
> Windows VPC (XP Mode) or is there a reason you're staying with MVPC 2007?


My W98SE VHDs are images of my original IBM APTIVA with W95 (16-bit OS) upgraded to W98SE (32-bit OS). They do not work in Windows 7 (64-bit) WVPC. They do work in MVPC-2007. [And, WVPC is ruined on my W7 machine; it will not install properly anymore.--{Nor will the Lenovo OEM Windows 7 reinstallanymore.}]

> I can tell you that on separate machines - one running 98se (real, not
> virtual) and the other running win-7, that the win-7 machine can see and
> access shared folders on the win-98 system (but perhaps only when no
> password is set?). I don't know but I suspect that it doesn't work the
> other way around.
>> I have no problem networking virtual W98SE machines locally within MVPC-2007,


This is a LAN within MVPC-2007 of two or more W98SE virtual machines only, using NBEUI/TCP (like networking real W9x/ME machines). This part of the LAN (same workgroup name) is using "Local" virtual NICs.

> Well, I thought that *WAS* your original problem - that you *COULDN'T*
> access shared folders between Win98 running in a VM and the host win-7
> system.
> This is what you said:
> ========
> ========
> How am I supposed to interpret that?


This part of the LAN (same workgroup name) is using the "Microsoft LoopbackAdapter" virtual NIC between the W98SE virtual machines and the Windows 7 host (real machine).

>> I just have a problem with networking Windows 98se to/from Windows 7
>> on the "Entire Network."


The shares do not show up in each others Network neighborhoods (or Entire Network) {Windows Explorer left-pane} directory trees, nor {right-pane} contents; and hence, cannot be mapped as network drives.

> And like I said, that works just fine for me. Select a folder on your
> win-98 machine to share. Naturally, make sure you have File and Printer
> sharing turned on. Select full-access (or just read access) and no
> password on the share. Then go to your win-7 system and select Map
> Network Drive, and you should be able to see the win-98 system when you
> browse the network. The name you should see will be what is entered in
> the Identification tab on win-98 Network Neighborhood properties window.
> The Workgroup setting you see there might have to match a similar
> setting on the win-7 box (not sure about that).


I am sharing the whole of drive C: on the W98SE VPCs and one special Share Folder only on the Windows 7 machine. I am missing something that should allow these machines to see each other, but what is it? Do I need my W7 machine to be the Server?
Mynews (10-10-18, 01:22 AM)
"James Davis" wrote in message
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I am sharing the whole of drive C: on the W98SE VPCs
and one special Share Folder only on the Windows 7 machine.
I am missing something that should allow these machines to see each other,
but what is it?
Do I need my W7 machine to be the Server?

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