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André G. Isaak (11-28-19, 04:50 PM)
On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much
googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?

André
Savageduck (11-28-19, 05:07 PM)
On Nov 28, 2019, André G. Isaak wrote
(in article <qromrm$2h2$1>):

> On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much
> googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
> out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?
> André


Somehow ?Mac Peer-to-Peer? comes to mind. However, that was dug out of
deep recesses of my memory, and is probably something quite different.
André G. Isaak (11-28-19, 05:47 PM)
On 2019-11-28 8:07 a.m., Savageduck wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2019, André G. Isaak wrote
> (in article <qromrmh2>):
> Somehow ?Mac Peer-to-Peer? comes to mind. However, that was dug out of
> deep recesses of my memory, and is probably something quite different.


Hmmm. My guess was 'Macintosh Packet(?) Protocol', but that was just a
guess. I'm trying to find something official. For all I know it's
something entirely random, like Mezcal Party Pack.

André
J Burns (11-29-19, 06:00 PM)
On 11/28/19 10:47 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:
> On 2019-11-28 8:07 a.m., Savageduck wrote:
> Hmmm. My guess was 'Macintosh Packet(?) Protocol', but that was just a
> guess. I'm trying to find something official. For all I know it's
> something entirely random, like Mezcal Party Pack.
> André

Macintosh Protocol Package?
André G. Isaak (11-29-19, 08:42 PM)
On 2019-11-29 9:00 a.m., J Burns wrote:
> Macintosh Protocol Package?


Except for the question mark at the end, that's the most sensible
suggestion I've seen yet. I wonder if anyone can confirm this?

André
Al Kossow (11-29-19, 09:41 PM)
On 11/29/19 10:42 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:
> can
> confirm this?


yes

originally called AppleBus Protocol Package

Alan Browne (11-29-19, 10:38 PM)
On 2019-11-28 09:50, André G. Isaak wrote:
> On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much
> googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
> out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?


The fellow who designed it was not happy with the assignment. He wanted
to work on schedulers and other real time aspects of the system.

When he had to name the extension, he used the initials of his mother in
law, 1 letter off. (Nancy Quincy Quartermaine).

Apple engineering and marketing didn't catch on for a while. When they
did the file name extension was too deeply coded and all over release
candidates and too much of a mess to cleanup.
André G. Isaak (11-29-19, 11:52 PM)
On 2019-11-29 12:41 p.m., Al Kossow wrote:
> On 11/29/19 10:42 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>> can
>> confirm this?

> yes
> originally called AppleBus Protocol Package
>


Thanks!

I had just starting sifting through the old ADC technical notes, which
was proving quite a challenge. After finally managing to get MacWrite
4.5 up and running I suddenly discovered I also needed MS Word 3.0.
Fortunately, I no longer have to cross that hurdle!

André

An aside: Neither Inside Macintosh Vol. 2 nor Inside Macintosh:
Networking answered this, but what really surprised me is that the
expression "MPP" does not occur *anywhere* in Inside AppleTalk.
Lewis (11-30-19, 04:01 AM)
In message <qrrfa9$8bu$1> J Burns <burns> wrote:
> On 11/28/19 10:47 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:


> Macintosh Protocol Package?


That is correct. It replaced the earlier Apple Protocol Package.
poc (12-03-19, 11:58 PM)
In comp.sys.mac.vintage Alan Browne <bitbucket> wrote:

> The fellow who designed it was not happy with the assignment. He wanted
> to work on schedulers and other real time aspects of the system.
> When he had to name the extension, he used the initials of his mother in
> law, 1 letter off. (Nancy Quincy Quartermaine).
> Apple engineering and marketing didn't catch on for a while. When they
> did the file name extension was too deeply coded and all over release
> candidates and too much of a mess to cleanup.


Source?

And, there's no "file name extension" on early Macs. The .MPP driver was
included in the system file.

:wq! PoC
poc (12-04-19, 12:08 AM)
In comp.sys.mac.vintage André G. Isaak <agisaak> wrote:

> On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much
> googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
> out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?


I just searched through the original Inside Macintosh Books but I didn't find
a word about what .MPP stands for. Maybe Macintosh Packet Protocol? Just a
guess, though.

:wq! PoC
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