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Michele (03-27-14, 11:33 PM)
Does anyone know if there is a user's group for Interlisp-D anywhere? Something that has posts more recent than 30 years ago?

Or am I really the last Interlisp-D programmer on earth? Hello ... hello ... ello .. o ... o ..... <and the echo vanishes into the night>
Espen Vestre (03-28-14, 10:18 AM)
Michele <mdenber> writes:

> Or am I really the last Interlisp-D programmer on earth?


I think you must be.

Those of us that still used Xerox lisp machines 25 years ago had already
switched to Xerox Common Lisp back then :-D
Michele (03-28-14, 08:33 PM)
On Friday, March 28, 2014 4:18:04 AM UTC-4, Espen Vestre wrote:
> Michele writes:
> > Or am I really the last Interlisp-D programmer on earth?

> I think you must be.
> Those of us that still used Xerox lisp machines 25 years ago had already
> switched to Xerox Common Lisp back then :-D


Um, but isn't XCL included in Interlisp-D? I have Medley running, and quite nicely, on a Sun Ultra 10 I picked up on Ebay last year, using a sysout I restored from a (very) old QIC 6250 tape.

It's really a shame this language didn't make it. The system is still the most programmer-friendly environment I've ever seen.
Espen Vestre (03-31-14, 10:04 AM)
Michele <mdenber> writes:

> Um, but isn't XCL included in Interlisp-D? I have Medley running, and
> quite nicely, on a Sun Ultra 10 I picked up on Ebay last year, using a
> sysout I restored from a (very) old QIC 6250 tape.


Yes, wasn't XCL included from Lyric on? (The precursor to Medley)

> It's really a shame this language didn't make it. The system is still
> the most programmer-friendly environment I've ever seen.


It was a very nice system, but I was a bit relieved when I switched to
Macintosh Common Lisp, which was also a very good system for its
time. Relieved because some things were very hard to get working on the
Xerox machines we had (like tcp/ip and printing). Of course things
worked very smoothly at PARC (where I was a summer intern in '88), but
stand-alone Xerox machines were buggy to work with. Still miss SEdit
though :-)
Pascal J. Bourguignon (03-31-14, 11:51 AM)
Espen Vestre <espen> writes:

> Michele <mdenber> writes:
> Yes, wasn't XCL included from Lyric on? (The precursor to Medley)
> It was a very nice system, but I was a bit relieved when I switched to
> Macintosh Common Lisp, which was also a very good system for its
> time. Relieved because some things were very hard to get working on the
> Xerox machines we had (like tcp/ip and printing). Of course things
> worked very smoothly at PARC (where I was a summer intern in '88), but
> stand-alone Xerox machines were buggy to work with. Still miss SEdit
> though :-)


Missed software should be ported to modern systems and languages.

And somebody with the resources and opportunity should write an emulator
to run Interlisp-D on modern systems. ;-)
(Sorry, I don't have a running Interlisp-D system).
Robert Swindells (03-31-14, 12:34 PM)
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:51:47 +0200, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:

> And somebody with the resources and opportunity should write an emulator
> to run Interlisp-D on modern systems. ;-)
> (Sorry, I don't have a running Interlisp-D system).


There is a Medley emulator for Linux, you used to be able to download it
from PARC for non-commercial use.

Robert Swindells
Michele (04-05-14, 07:34 PM)
On Monday, March 31, 2014 6:34:35 AM UTC-4, Robert Swindells wrote:

> There is a Medley emulator for Linux, you used to be able to download it
> from PARC for non-commercial use.


It also runs on Sun Sparcs. I have it running on a Sun Ultra 10 running Solaris 10. I also got it to work in a Solaris 9 VM in VirtualBox on an x86 PC.
masinter (11-21-17, 03:20 AM)
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 2:33:23 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a user's group for Interlisp-D anywhere? Something that has posts more recent than 30 years ago?
> Or am I really the last Interlisp-D programmer on earth? Hello ... hello ... ello .. o ... o ..... <and the echo vanishes into the night>


I just made an Interlisp group.


i'm hoping to preserve Interlisp through the Internet Archive and/or Computer History Museum. Maybe get a copy of Medley running through Web Assembly. If Internet Archive can offer Hypercard emulation why not Interlisp-D?



has sources and a README that shows how to run it on a modern Mac using X
shaunbdonnelly (01-28-18, 09:44 AM)
On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 12:20:19 PM UTC+11, masi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 2:33:23 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
> I just made an Interlisp group.
>
> i'm hoping to preserve Interlisp through the Internet Archive and/or Computer History Museum. Maybe get a copy of Medley running through Web Assembly. If Internet Archive can offer Hypercard emulation why not Interlisp-D?
>
> has sources and a README that shows how to run it on a modern Mac using X


Hi,

Could I get access to that google drived shared files. I'd like to have a look at them.

Kind Regards,

Shaun.
aek (04-01-18, 06:27 PM)
On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 5:20:19 PM UTC-8, masi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 2:33:23 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
> I just made an Interlisp group.
>
> i'm hoping to preserve Interlisp through the Internet Archive and/or Computer History Museum. Maybe get a copy of Medley running through Web Assembly. If Internet Archive can offer Hypercard emulation why not Interlisp-D?
>
> has sources and a README that shows how to run it on a modern Mac using X


I just contacted Larry, CHM has a large collection of Interlisp material, some of which is on bitsavers.
Lars Brinkhoff (04-01-18, 06:36 PM)
masinter writes:
> On Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 2:33:23 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
> i'm hoping to preserve Interlisp through the Internet Archive and/or
> Computer History Museum. Maybe get a copy of Medley running through
> Web Assembly. If Internet Archive can offer Hypercard emulation why
> not Interlisp-D?


How about Interlisp-10?
a.daniel.eliason (04-10-18, 03:28 PM)
On Friday, March 28, 2014 at 7:33:25 PM UTC+1, Michele wrote:
> On Friday, March 28, 2014 4:18:04 AM UTC-4, Espen Vestre wrote:
> > Michele writes:

> I have Medley running, and quite nicely, on a Sun Ultra 10 I picked up on Ebay last year, using a sysout I restored from a (very) old QIC 6250 tape.


Wow, you read an old QIC 6250 tape?? I've never been able to read one more than about 3 or 4 years old!

Congrats on getting some interest going - I'll poke around on the archives and see what it's all about.
masinter (11-09-18, 01:54 AM)
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 2:33:23 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a user's group for Interlisp-D anywhere? Something that has posts more recent than 30 years ago?
> Or am I really the last Interlisp-D programmer on earth? Hello ... hello ... ello .. o ... o ..... <and the echo vanishes into the night>


Spiros Bousbouras (11-09-18, 04:17 AM)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 15:54:19 -0800 (PST)
masinter wrote:
> On Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 2:33:23 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there is a user's group for Interlisp-D anywhere? Something that has posts more recent than 30 years ago?
> > Or am I really the last Interlisp-D programmer on earth? Hello ... hello ... ello .. o ... o ..... <and the echo vanishes into the night>

>


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