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Edna Hosner (06-29-19, 02:57 AM)
AirPods with Skype on an iMac...

I haven't been able to make it work.

Can you help?
Percival John Hackworth (06-29-19, 05:11 PM)
On 28-Jun-2019, Edna Hosner wrote
(in article <280620191757094708%edna>):

> AirPods with Skype on an iMac...
> I haven't been able to make it work.
> Can you help?


I have hearing aids that use Bluetooth (they're new). They work find for
listening to music or audio but I can't use them for Zoom. I have to use
wired ear buds. I think this is a similar issue because the API used for
doing the audio doesn't seem to allow for bluetooth redirection which is why
my hearing aids don't work.

Don't have a solution other than to recommend using wired ear buds or a
gamer's headset. Or do what I do. I connect to the meeting with my phone
which has no problem streaming the sound through the hearing aids. You'll see
two connections. Don't connect the audio on the iMac and just use your
Airpods.
Jolly Roger (06-29-19, 05:58 PM)
On 2019-06-29, Edna Hosner <edna> wrote:
> AirPods with Skype on an iMac...
> I haven't been able to make it work.
> Can you help?


Works fine here. Just tested it.

Tell us the exact steps you took to connect them to the Mac and use them
with Skype.
Jolly Roger (06-29-19, 06:00 PM)
On 2019-06-29, Percival John Hackworth <pjh> wrote:
[..]
> which has no problem streaming the sound through the hearing aids. You'll see
> two connections. Don't connect the audio on the iMac and just use your
> Airpods.


No. AirPods work just fine with most Mac apps.
gtr (06-30-19, 02:56 AM)
On 2019-06-29 16:00:46 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2019-06-29, Percival John Hackworth <pjh> wrote:
> No. AirPods work just fine with most Mac apps.


It depends on what you mean by "work fine". I get airpods to sound
great and work appropriately with most music and audio programs, so I'm
a fan. But when I try to use them in sync situations (playing along
with audio and the like, including garage band with external sources)
there is a notable and insurmountable sync issue. I must use wired
headsets/ear buds.

This may not be the source of the "make it work" issue the OP was
referring to, but there is the opportunity for grief with some
timing-sensitive operations.
Jolly Roger (06-30-19, 04:08 AM)
On 2019-06-30, gtr <xxx> wrote:
> On 2019-06-29 16:00:46 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> No. AirPods work just fine with most Mac apps.

> It depends on what you mean by "work fine". I get airpods to sound
> great and work appropriately with most music and audio programs, so
> I'm a fan.


They work great in every app I've used, including Skype as a test before
replying to this thread. : )

> But when I try to use them in sync situations (playing along with
> audio and the like, including garage band with external sources) there
> is a notable and insurmountable sync issue. I must use wired
> headsets/ear buds.


How would AirPods be involved in playing along exactly? What sort of
setup are you talking about?

> This may not be the source of the "make it work" issue the OP was
> referring to, but there is the opportunity for grief with some
> timing-sensitive operations.


Like what?
Bob Campbell (06-30-19, 05:20 PM)
On 6/29/19 8:56 PM, gtr wrote:

> It depends on what you mean by "work fine". I get airpods to sound great
> and work appropriately with most music and audio programs, so I'm a
> fan.  But when I try to use them in sync situations (playing along with
> audio and the like, including garage band with external sources) there
> is a notable and insurmountable sync issue.  I must use wired
> headsets/ear buds.


This sounds like the usual delay time that most bluetooth
speakers/headphones have. Try watching a movie or something. The sound
can eventually get behind the video, so that the words and lips are out
of sync.

Some speakers are much better than others, depending on the bluetooth
version and codecs available. But wired headphones/speakers are the
only real solution if you need perfect sync.
Jolly Roger (06-30-19, 05:24 PM)
On 2019-06-30, Bob Campbell <none> wrote:
> On 6/29/19 8:56 PM, gtr wrote:
> This sounds like the usual delay time that most bluetooth
> speakers/headphones have. Try watching a movie or something. The
> sound can eventually get behind the video, so that the words and lips
> are out of sync.


My wife connects her AirPods to the Apple TV in our living room daily to
watch movies and TV shows, and that has never happened with them. Apple
does a great job with audio/video synchronization - better than many
others, IME.
Bob Campbell (06-30-19, 05:45 PM)
On 6/30/19 11:24 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:

> My wife connects her AirPods to the Apple TV in our living room daily to
> watch movies and TV shows, and that has never happened with them. Apple
> does a great job with audio/video synchronization - better than many
> others, IME.


Yes, that's why I said CAN happen, not always happens. But I have seen
it myself. Also, things are much better now than a few years ago. It's
pretty much a non issue these days with Bluetooth 4.2 and up. I also
did a firmware update on some speakers here that eliminated the delay.

But the OP was talking about multi-track recording/playback and playing
along live, with the recording. Having done things like that myself,
perfect sync is very important. Much more noticeable than words/mouth
sync.
Jolly Roger (06-30-19, 06:03 PM)
On 2019-06-30, Bob Campbell <none> wrote:
> On 6/30/19 11:24 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Yes, that's why I said CAN happen, not always happens. But I have seen
> it myself. Also, things are much better now than a few years ago. It's
> pretty much a non issue these days with Bluetooth 4.2 and up. I also
> did a firmware update on some speakers here that eliminated the delay.


Maybe that's the difference. We are using mostly up to date systems and
devices with our AirPods.

> But the OP was talking about multi-track recording/playback and playing
> along live, with the recording. Having done things like that myself,
> perfect sync is very important. Much more noticeable than words/mouth
> sync.


Actually the OP was asking about using AirPods with Skype, said it
didn't work, but never came back to tell us more details. Then th thread
diverged into a/v sync issues. ; )
nospam (06-30-19, 06:11 PM)
In article <veqdnRMxUd6jToXAnZ2dnUU7-Q_NnZ2d>, Bob
Campbell <none> wrote:

> This sounds like the usual delay time that most bluetooth
> speakers/headphones have. Try watching a movie or something. The sound
> can eventually get behind the video, so that the words and lips are out
> of sync.


airpods don't have that problem.

> Some speakers are much better than others, depending on the bluetooth
> version and codecs available. But wired headphones/speakers are the
> only real solution if you need perfect sync.


false.
Edna Hosner (07-01-19, 06:34 AM)
never mind

i got it to work

thanks everyone
Edna Hosner (07-01-19, 06:37 AM)
In article <280620191757094708%edna>, Edna Hosner
<edna> wrote:

thanks everyone

i got it working

long live usenet
Jolly Roger (07-01-19, 11:37 PM)
On 2019-07-01, Edna Hosner <edna> wrote:
> In article <280620191757094708%edna>, Edna Hosner
><edna> wrote:
> thanks everyone
> i got it working
> long live usenet


Seriously? You don't even bother to tell us what was wrong or how you
fixed it? Long live useless Usenet I guess, thanks to you.
Edna Hosner (07-02-19, 12:58 AM)
In article <gnvco0F56abU1>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger> wrote:

> Seriously? You don't even bother to tell us what was wrong or how you
> fixed it? Long live useless Usenet I guess, thanks to you.


i didn't do that because it appeared that everyone else
already knew how it worked

i had missed that there is a pop-up menu in the bluetooth pref pane
that allow me to connect the AirPods

really simple

i missed it

then i saw it

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